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Rock sliders

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I've finally got around to building my sliders. I have made them out of two and a half inch pipe and made a u shaped brackets to go around the chassis. Should I put a thin layer of rubber in the u shaped bracket so that the two don't rub and squeak. And of course holden have run just about every fuel line and brake line along the inside of the rail so I will be spacing them out so they don't touch the brackets.

Thanks gregg

immobiliser

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I have a 2000 jack diesel and I have reset the immobiliser however I was warned by the tech 2 that the engine will not start if I confirm reset ,well I confirmed reset and now the engine will not start ,I did so due to an immobiliser malfunction code P1626 ,and also has I was having a problem with engine running rough and stalls on hot days ,does anyone know how to reactivate the immobiliser so the car will start any help will be much appreciated and thanks  

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Camshaft Carrier torque settings

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Does anyone have the Camshaft Carrier torque settings and sequence?

I've searched and can't seem to find it

Your assistance is greatly appreciated

The adventure continues, diesel in coolant now

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Well, after the run in with the broken one way valve on the primer pump, it starts every time now.

 

BUT. Checked coolant levels this morning, and there is diesel in the coolant. Ok, so o-rings and/or sleeves to replace.

 

Where can i get them from? 

 

Also discovered one of my injectors is low on resistance on the coil, 2.4ohm instead of 2.6, which to me indicates a possible short circuited turn in the solenoid. Will worry about that later, gotta get this diesel in the coolant problem solved first.

 

Ebay hasnt helped, unless im looking for the wrong thing. Anyone got a source for the o rings?

Inhibitor Switch

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Hi Guys

 

Just wondering if anyone can offer me some assistance in terms of trying to source a 92 Inhibitor Switch for my Jackaroo

 

I have tried genuine Holden Parts and they advise that they do not stock anything prior to a 98....just my luck, I have also tried many other sites, wreckers....Ebay,....but to no avail

 

Would anyone know of any after market sites that suit the 92 Inhibitor Switch.....as I am getting desperate

 

Regards David

4JX1 ORPS diagnosis and replacement

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Recently had to do the old oil rail pressure sensor replacement job on my Jack. I was a bit apprehensive tackling it without instructions, so thought I'd throw together a little how-to for anyone in the same boat.

First, the diagnosis. The issues started with a bit of spluttering, then she died completely (while out of town, of course). At this stage disconnecting the injector harness (bundle of pink wires at the back LHS of the engine) and cleaning out the leaked oil in the plug helped. Eventually the problem got worse, and the engine wouldn't start at all.

To confirm the issue lies with the ORPS, open circuit that sensor by cutting the white wire that plugs into the injector harness (circled here). This will kick the ECU into limp mode, with a check engine light up and reduced engine power, but at least it will start and run reliably.

With the ORPS open circuited like this, the engine will need to crank for longer than usual before it will fire - extra glowing time helps here (keep glowing for a few seconds after the glow light on the dash has gone out). You can run indefinitely like this, just don't expect to get anywhere fast. Fuel consumption will be normal, or increased slightly due to the need to lean on the accelerator a bit harder all the time.

Eventually you'll get sick of being overtaken by Daihatsus and decide to fix the problem.

Parts required:
-Oil rail pressure sensor GM8971370421
-cable ties
-gasket goo

Parts desirable:
-Rocker cover gasket GM8971606721
-O-ring for the ORPS (only available from Holden with the complete oil rail)
-injector harness GM8971463368
-two O-rings for the high pressure oil line GM8971842160
-oil line to rocker cover seal
-oil and oil filters GM8971679720 and GM8972093062

I'll try and dig up some part numbers and post them tomorrow.

Tools required:
-a cheap 9/16" open end spanner (you'll need to grind it down)
-assorted sockets, pliers, etc

Tools desirable:
-gloves (there'll be lots of oil around, and lots of things to skin knuckles on)
-30?mm flare nut spanner for the high pressure oil line. A big shifter will suffice.

Procedure:
1. remove intercooler (plastic surround lifts off, then four bolts and two hose clamps for the intercooler itself), and intercooler bracket
2. remove airbox-turbo pipe
3. remove any PCV/breather/EGR/whatever plumbing that looks like it might be in the way
4. remove throttle body
5. remove plastic rocker cover cover (be careful, there might be more bolts than you immediately see).
6. remove foam insulation
7. remove the high pressure oil line that runs from under the manifold into the side of the rocker cover.
8. remove rocker cover
9. disconnect all the plugs of the injector harness and gently push it aside
10. halfway along the oil rail, you'll see a little brass sensor that looks like the new one you just bought. you can probably take the oil rail off, separate all the injectors and get the sensor out, but that was a can of worms i didn't want to open. Instead, grab your least favourite 9/16" open ender, grind some meat off its sides, and start lefty-loosying. The limited access means you can only do about 1/16 of a turn at a time, but you'll get it eventually.
11. Screw the new sensor in, preferably with a new O-ring
12. Reconnect all the plugs on the injector harness. If you like doing things properly (and throwing money at Holden), use a new harness. If not, reuse the old harness, and use cable ties to clamp any broken connectors.
13. Replace rocker cover, either with goo or a new gasket.
14. Put everything back how you found it.
15. solder up or crimp connectors onto that white wire you cut earlier.
16. Recheck that everything is done up.
17. Turn ignition on. No CEL - hooray!
18. Crank. Expect it to take a bit of extra cranking while it builds oil pressure again.
19. check for leaks.
20. Rejoice in your full 118kW.

The whole job took me a few hours, without rushing. Changing both oil filters afterwards was a more painful task.

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One warning - there are stories that the ECU needs to be recalibrated to the new ORPS. This requires a Holden Tech-II computer. My vehicle runs fine with its new sensor, as have several others I've heard of. Your milage may vary.

Hope this helps.

Dane.

A run down of things that have fixed issues with my 4JX1

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Wow this machine has been a nightmare right from day dot. 3 days in, the engine starts idling very rough, no power, blowing white smoke until hot etc etc. Diagnosis of course was a faulty injector, a spring inside the assembly had broken. Anyway, I was in a tight financial situation at the time so my uncle replaced all 4 injectors with re-conditioned ones and all seemed to be good.

 

Interestingly though, the engine intermittently had an issue whereby the idle was fluctuating like their was an air leak somewhere. It would just take some patience to wait for it to clear its throat and then it was all good, until a few months down the track it wouldn't start and had a tendency to conk out on me when I eventually did get it going. So I took it to a mechanic who was well known for working on the 4JX1's. His diagnosis was a faulty glow plug. Of course they were seized in the head so they needed to remove it and get them out that way (I told him to replace all 4 while he was in there). Anyway, a week or so later I pick the car up and as soon as I leave I'm getting a 'check engine' light, exhaust is noisy and the engine lacks power. So I take it back several times to allow them to troubleshoot the MIL light, they ascertain it is EGR related. They stop the light but the EGR was making a weird humming sound. I really didn't care at the time I just wanted a car to get around in!

 

So, it turns out that I am still having problems starting the engine and it still has a tendency to conk out on me and rock and roll around like there is an air problem somewhere. Back to the mechanic and it stays up there for a couple of weeks. They sort the EGR noise by checking and changing hose configurations and adjusting some sensor near the air intake. They find the fuel filter is sucking air so they replace that and the filter head and they are still having issues. They then check the orifice at the back of the head and it is blocked. So they clear the blockage, place non-return valves in every possible spot to eliminate any possible drain back issues, adjust the TPS as it is out of synch, replace the coolant sensor, check the little butterfly thingy in the exhaust (something to do with rapid warm up) and all seems to be good. it starts fine so I go and pick it up. The mechanic mentioned the ORPS needs to be replaced at some point as it is badly leaking.

 

Couple of days later, same issues across the board so back to the mechanic. They check the oil pickups in the sump (someone had already been in there from the days of the previous owner) seals were all good and the pickups hadn't broken off. My uncle had mentioned in his paperwork that he was unable to remove one end of the oil rail to replace the seal. So I had a spare oil rail here, they replaced all the seals and the ORPS. Much to my mechanics frustration, after the all the work he had put in, the car still has a problem with starting and he was quite frustrated by the fact that the pressure in the rail was dropping to 0 when the key was turned to the off position. He then installed a small electronic fuel priming pump mounted near the firewall and finally.... the car has been good. The cold start is still ordinary and it blows a little bit of white smoke when it starts due to what I would believe to be a fuel problem STILL! The cold start is noticeably worse when the vehicle is nose up.

 

I spoke to Chilby about the outcome and I think his comments would be great for those troubleshooting issues with these engines:

 

"I'll have to read a bit on this.  It seems that whatever mechanism holds pressure in the rail - isn't.  I expect there's a combination of operations for that.  You have two fluids remember - oil at high pressure being fed into the rail, and diesel fuel gurgling through the head at a much lower pressure.  By what you mechanic says, it's the oil pressure that drops suddenly - so the problem would be in that circuit. 

 

There is a by-pass system in the fuel circuit that allows excess fuel to return to the tank but your mechanics says it's OIL pressure that drops suddenly when she's turned off, not fuel.  So that would be way down on the list of things to check.

 

But you say there was "a very badly leaking ORPS" which is exactly the kind of fault i'd be looking for.  

If the ECM is reading that oil rail pressure is ok "No worries guys! plenty of pressure here to drive fuel.." , but in fact the real pressure is leaking out the other end of the sensor, that would explain why she stops when the engine slows down. The injector solenoids would be opening but the fuel delivery would be slow.

 

In other words the main problem may already be fixed. 

 

Perhaps to elaborate and carry that forward a bit. .. A common rail injector system has the advantage of holding fuel pressure high "even at idle" they say... but the reality is that at idle the main rail pressure does drop a bit since the oil pump isn't going as fast.  The quick fix to that is to raise the idle so the pressure never drops that low. 

What your mechanic has done is rather clever - he's holding fuel pressure high at idle with an electric pump instead. This would have the effect of picking up fuel delivery a tad at idle. Top marks!

 

Barring more pressure leaks in the oil circuit etc.. ( which I doubt since you've had guys scratching their head over it and leaks/seals are obvious to the eye ) to my mind all this points to a lazy Rail Pressure Control Valve. It's located on the back of the high pressure pump.  It's a powerful solenoid and is the main ECM control system over oil rail pressure.  Like any device bathed in oil, it tends to get gummed up with varnish over time.  The cheap fix is to carefully take it apart and clean it.  Preference is given to buying a cheap ultrasoninc cleaner off eBay so that it's gently cleaned and all the tiny orifices inside get well flushed out. This is a common maintenance item with the 4JX1.  I very much doubt that the solenoid in it is faulty - since I would suggest that someone has been reading the ECM while all this work has been going on - and a solenoid reading high resistance etc would be picked up straight away and likely be leaving a dashboard MIL code as well.   But it would only be "lazy" ( slow to react because of a bit of sludge ) not totally footed since the engine seems to be running ok off idle.

 

There were a number of interesting phenomena noted when people started buying Tech2's on this forum.      They noted the oil rail pressure jumping around at idle. It was only noticeable with the Tech2 reading and the engine idle was smooth with no other problems.  This was likely a combination of 2 things - the ECM is a digital device so sends PULSES to the RPCV instead of a smooth analogue signal.  If the valve is a bit gummed up at the same time you can imagine the effect.. the pressure jumping around a bit.   So perhaps what's happening to your engine is the next step up from that phenomena - the valve is starting to jam open or closed when at idle.   

 

Of course i'm only guessing.  But if the story is a bit like the above your vehicle is already repaired.  I have experienced personally what a bugger it can be to clear the fuel line of air bubbles so wouldn't doubt that could be a problem.  In that case it's just a matter of running her for a bit. The electric priming pump would be a bonus. 

 

I suggest you think about getting a Tech2 if keeping the vehicle.  It tends to be a lot of indecipherable gobbledegoop, but with regular use you start to notice when things change. Also when you get time to go through the huge chapter on fault finding with a Tech2 in the *.pdf manual it seems like a good thing.  Then you can follow the regular GMH maintence schedule in the maunual as well. YOu become GMH.  They're down to $420 delivered now at this site:

 

http://www.aliexpres.../573637766.html

 

 

cheers,

 

 

Cliff"

 

Anyhow, I have since found out that the mechanic replaced the RPCV with a second hand one. So it would seem that isn't the problem unless the second hand one is dodgy of course. However, my next thought when I get it serviced again is to try GENUINE filters as there have been a number of occasions where I have read about similar issues with these vehicles when using RYCO filters. So I'll give that a go next time and post the outcome. As for the ongoing fuel problem...... any ideas? My mechanic said he was astonishingly sure the filter head was new but he may be wrong and he'll check it next time. He also asked me to check for fuel leaks but I haven't been able to spot anything. I do sometimes here the sound of liquid touching a hot metal surface after stopping the engine but buggared if I know where it's coming from....

 

So I think it comes down to this. This engine HAS NOT been looked after based on all the stuff that was wrong with it. She goes like a steam train now though, I love driving it. Just needs new shocks, fresh power steering and brake fluid and I finally have it up to date with maintenance.


HOW DOES ANTI-THEFT IMMOBILIZER WORK?

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I am clutching at straws but would appreciate it if some-one could tell me how the immobilizer works.  I understand that the immobilzer communicates with a chip in the ignition key and prevents the engine from starting. My question is, if the immobilizer is active will the engine turn over on the starter motor or does the immobilzer prevent the starter motor from operating?

 

In very brief summary the following is a summary of the events that have led to my question.

 

1. Jack was running on 3 cylinders so I put in a complete set (4) reconditioned injectors.

 

2. After the installation of the reconditioned injectors Jack started (after a little persuasion) and ran on all four cylinders for approximately 10 minutes, then just stopped (as if ignition key had been turned off).  Since then the engine turns over but will not fire.

 

3.  Since this occurred I have:

 

- removed and cleaned the ignition wiring harness by bathing in meths, checked each wire fro continuity.

 

- made sure the timing marks on the camshaft pulley and the oil pump pulley line up at the same time while the No: 1 piston is at top dead centre on the compression stroke (double checked by removing the No:1 injector, verifying the position of the piston and confirming that all the valves were open or closed as appropriate.

 

- replaced the camshaft sensor

 

- removed and cleaned the high pressure oil control valve following instruction found on this forum (got a lot of junk out of it

 

- replaced the oil rail pressure sensor

 

- confirmed that there is a good flow of diesel to the inlet manifold, even checked the flow of diesel from the fuel return line at the fuel tank with the engine being cranked over.

 

- had the local Holden dealer check with his Tech2. His report stated; 

  "Carried out scan tool diagnosis - no codes are present, looked at still data found injectors disabled, tried to program ECM/Injector fuel trim but was unable to input right code.  Recommend find correct fuel trim code and program Fuel Trim "Injector ECM""   Note there is an injector signal pulse & fuel pressure, RPM signal ECM no abnormal readings at time."

 

 

- thanks to this forum I now know the injector categories and although the workshop states that new injectors have to be programmed with a Tech2, the injectors suppliers and a number of contributors to this forum state that this is not necessary (all replacement injectors are Category B-1, B-2 or B-3) and I am inclined to go with the latter, however, once again clutching at straws I will get the Tech2 back to carry out this programming, test the injector circuits, confirm the crankshaft sensor is working okay and to look for any other fault codes.

 

I have prepared a detailed Tech2 programming and testing schedule for the Holden guys to follow as the local Holden guys have never worked on Jackaroos, however I am not super confident that the next application of the Tech2 will fix the

problem

 

Clutching at straws, could it be a malfunctioning engine immobilizer?

 

 

I am not very confident that

 

 

 

 

ORPS reading and problems

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A quick run down first....
I had diesel filling the oil and lots of white smoke.....took to mechanic (big big mistake), they said it would be the sleeves...changed them....found out it would be the injectors....took vechile out of mechanics. Upon inspection, I noticed they had broken 2 glow plugs..(great)...anyway, I changed all 4 injectors. Now no smoke, good problem fixed. Took to friends Tech2 reading was glow plugs, of course, running hot and Hi Input for the ORPS...when we reved the car the reading stayed the same, 27. Then checked coolant and discovered bubbles. Ripped head off and changed head gasket...all back together, no bubbles or smoke, problem fixed. While head was off, cleaned RPCV. Cleaned contacts etc. Replaced ORPS. Put back on tech 2 reading...Hi Input ORPS stuck on 27......RPCV at 33%. Everything else is good, although the MAP only got up to 166, so maybe a clean or a new one.

Anyway, problem at hand is the ORPS reading Hi Input Fault and reads at 27 and no movement, stuck on it. Can't be the sensor, just put new one on, just cleaned all connections. I have not checked for this "white wire cut thing" I have been reading on here though....could it be that and just in limp mode constantly?
Never had engine light come on before it went to mechanics. Could it be the ECU? When it's plugged into Tech 2 only astrix's appear not serial numbers on the load up page.
Am I missing anything else it could possibly be?

Radiator needed

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Hi Guys, I have a Isuzu Mu which I think is a 93 model with 3.1 t/diesel and I notice after removing the front bumper and nudge bar that my radiator fins are crumbling. Any clues where to pick up a good radiator at a reasonable price?

Jackaroo cut out after 10 mins.

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I have recently had 4 new injectors installed in my 4JX1 motor. After driving for about 10-15 mins, the car just cuts-out. It turns over ok but takes awhile to fire again. This has happened 3 times in 3 days. The only clue I can give was the just before dying, I had the engine under slight load accelerating.

Can anyone post a possible cause or something to look into please. The engine appears to be running well & no noticeable miss / stutter before hand. 

Regards,

oxalater.

Isuzu fuel pump pressure

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Hi again. Can anyone please tell me what a typical fuel pump pressure would be for the 2.6 petrol EFI engine on a 96 rodeo. It's the Isuzu engine. Many thanks

The adventure has gone into high gear...

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With the car actually locking up its transmission, feeling like its got wire around the prop shaft.  

I think its a bearing chewing through its ball cage, either in the output of the gear box, or the output of the transfer case.

 

 

 

Clutch also let go.

 

So, 153 thousand km jackaroo:

Needs new front and rear brakes.

Needs new clutch, friction plate and probably bearing. 

Needs sleeve seals and injector seals. 

Needs replacement injector.

Needs new front wheel bearings.

Primer pump assembly needs replacement as well, as well as possibly timing belt.

 

 

Called up tow truck today, they asked the colour of the vehicle, and i nearly said yellow... i guess this is what you get for a 2500 dollar second hand 4wd.

 

FUN AND GAMES.

URGENT HELP NEEDED

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G'day everyone, I have just been away for the past few day and when I was traveling home my 03 jack made a grinding noise when I turned to the right. I drove home approx 170km with trailer but when I got home it was making the same noise no matter what way I turned and it, when I got home and pulled into my drive way the noise was a hell of a lot worse. I reckon it's my bearing on the drivers side. What does everyone think and also if anyone has instruction on how to fix would be great as well TIA

Frontera wheel and tyre sizes

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Hey folks I know this has been hashed out before and for that I apologise in advance. However I have only recently gotten into 4wding and the whole scene. I have a 01 frontera s with factory 15 inch wheels with 235//75 15 tyres. I found a set of later model 16x7 factory rims nice and cheap. Was thinking of 245/70 16 a/t tyres to go on them. What I want to know is is this the correct tyre size I should use to not scrub and God economy and all that jazz. Any help greatly appreciated.

4jx1 starting problems

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Hi I have a 98 Jackaroo 3l disel. I drove to work and car was fine turned it off and returned 8 hours later. Car would crank over but not start. I cut the White wire to the orps and off she went in limp mode.
I have replaced the orps sensor with a new on but not a genuine one reconnected the White wire and will not start, disconnect the wire and she starts.
I have tested the White wire disconnected I get 5v and connected when cranking I get between 1.6-2v
The next step was to clean the rpcv and see if that help?
Has anyone else got any ideas for me to try out? Or anyone in the parramatta or Sydney area have a tech 2?
Thanks guys

Replacing Jackaroo steering wheel - options with Radio buttons on wheel.

Re-programming Remote Keyless

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Just a summary of some experience dpinkerton and I have had recently on re-programming the keyless entry module. This may save a lot of time and cost when you think the module is faulty. In dpinkerton’s case he bought a car without remote key fobs and had to source new ones on eBay. In my case after 14 years of faithful service the keyless module decided to forget my key-codes.
 
You might think the Isuzu engineer had been hitting the Sake when he devised this but here is the procedure for re-programming the keyless module.
 
  • Make sure you have a new battery in the key.
  • Open the driver’s door and stand beside the car with right hand on key in the ignition and left thumb on door light button. (The little black rubber thing near the door latch).
  • Turn the key to ‘ON’ and back to ‘OFF’ three times.
  • Press and release the door light button two times.
  • Turn the key to ‘ON’ and back to ‘OFF’ three times.
  • Press and release the door light button once.
  • If you have done it correctly the doors will lock and unlock.
  • Press the unlock button on your remote.
  • The doors will lock and unlock.
  • Press the lock button on your remote.
  • The doors will lock and unlock. You are finished.
Repeat for any other keys. The module will hold five codes after which it will drop the oldest one off when you add a new one.
I found it easier to use a spare key in the ignition and have the key I wanted to program sitting on the seat.
The time from first turn of key to last press of door light button is critical. It needs to be no more than around 5 seconds to work.
 
Any questions please ask !
 
Andrew.

Building lists of 4JX1 info and specs

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Hey All

The purpose of this thread is to assemble accurate info on the 4JX1 and make it a first port of call for info. We all have bit and pieces of the puzzle and there are threads but it’s a bit all over the shop – jackablue (many thanks) gave the idea by his bringing some threads together in the sticky in this forum.

So firstly; Take the poll please, its a lot of work to do this idea and we'd like to get some feedback on if you'll all support the project

There is the issue of proprietary info that GMH feels should not be "out there". IMO, silly them for ever releasing the service CD's as an authorised aftermarket purchase in the first place to both private purchasers and repairers. IMO, though, to lock up info on an orphan model that they are de-stocking parts and backup for is petty and alienating. Then there is the fact that Isuzu Trucks, Australia has the (ex-Rodeo) 4JH-1TC in the Sitec 125 NPR trucks that makes their position on information just plain silly. And that’s just one example. But enough whinging.

But we have to respect GMH’s intellectual property. So then, cut and paste from GMH info and formats would be out.
Pete is going to make this new thread a sticky. If anyone has any accurate info, post it. The info will be sorted.

This means:

1) Part numbers, original or aftermarket supplier.
2) Trouble shooting procedures
3) Repair information (torque values…)
4) Fault codes
5) Alternate part number
6) Repair procedures – like DaneH’s contribution on the ORPS procedure (kudos!)

When there are enough entries, it will be assembled into either a blog or articles system that Pete is still hunting up. Further expansion to the 6VE1 and the Jackaroo in general might be the go but we’ve got to start somewhere first.

I’m thinking alphabetical order but any suggestions?

I’m figuring if we don’t look after ourselves, no one else is going to do it for us?

Go Well,
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